Thoughts on Karma and Reincarnation
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Reincarnation as a concept is something I have struggled intellectually to come to grips with. However experience has taught me that the problem usually isn’t with the spiritual concept but rather with my limited understanding of it.
This has happened before when I’ve read certain texts and the way I’ve understood what I was reading turned out later on in the light of greater experience and learning to not come close to what the text was expressing.
Today I would like to share with you my current understanding of karma and reincarnation. Much like the article on Nirvana I expect many of you will have alternate views on this subject. If you do I would love for you to share them here in the comments so that we can all benefit from an expanded and enriched perspective.
I would love to write a follow up article to both this one and the one on Nirvana to present alternative perspectives on the subjects. For me to successfully achieve that I need your help.
Karma
The concepts of karma and reincarnation are closely entwined. The word “karma” simply means action. Unless we’re talking from a Buddhist perspective where it has to do with intention. This is one of the fundamental things the Buddha changed or elaborated on.
If you’ve tried some meditation or if you’ve simply sat and observed and considered the nature of things (who wouldn’t call that meditation?) you will have noticed that all is in the process of change. As little as five or seven years ago your physical body was completely different. Every single cell that made up your body at that time has since died and been replaced. Everything undergoes a continuous transformation.
Our mind undergoes a continuous transformation. Thoughts, feelings, and emotions continuously arise, abide for a time and depart. There is nothing we can point to within the mind/body complex that is the same now as it was just seven years ago. In fact some 2,000,000 red blood cells die and must be replaced every second!
One Moment Conditions the Next
However, what we are now has been conditioned by what we were. Every moment conditions the arising of the next moment. Nothing from the previous moment is carried over but there is a clear relationship between one moment and the next. There is continuity.
Therefore, at the moment of death, the quality of consciousness conditions the arising of the consciousness that is incarnated. The new consciousness depends on the last moment of the old consciousness but nothing as such is carried over.
Interestingly under this understanding death can be seen as no different to what is already happening now moment to moment. There is actually no death as such. Therefore there is nothing to fear. Nor is there birth as such.
Nothing dies if death means to cease to be. Everything simply transforms. Thus what we think and do can continue to play out as future effects. What this means to me is we as powerful human beings can take hold of this moment right now, step out of the reactionary robot like nature of ego, and creatively make this moment a joyful, loving and compassionate moment. In this way we have the power to condition the next moment, the next moment, the rest of our existence in this state and beyond.
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November 7th, 2008 at 3:52 am
Stephen,
Excellent article! It makes me happy to think that death is just tranformation, not an end. I have never been very religious in any way, but I do think about spirituality and the meaning of life all the time.
Thanks for your comment over at Simple Sapien. It is great to meet you! I am loving your blog so far. I will be keeping up with it and letting you know what I think. Talk to ya soon!
- Jack Rugile
Simple Sapien
November 7th, 2008 at 4:06 am
Jack,
It’s great to meet you to! If you’re on Twitter you can feel free to connect with me through there as well.
Glad you enjoyed the article. I think it can be a rather uplifting thing to realized that nothing simply ceases to be and that if death just means change then we are dieing and being reborn moment to moment. Cool eh?
I look forward to hearing from you again soon.
All the best,
Stephen
November 9th, 2008 at 3:20 am
Well, I do think you’ve explained what you have learned about reincarnation clearly and something that seems like it could be understood by people. I doubt you’ll get a lot of arguments, as it seems people are often afraid of that on blogs, especially on this kind of topic. So, I’ll take a step out of a comfort zone here and make my stand. First, I certainly don’t believe in reincarnation and how it’s associated with worldly karma. I believe in an afterlife judged by God.
There are many arguments for and against so you need to research more, but I like to look in unexpected areas for consideration. And for this topic, even the paranormal seems to lean more proof to the existence of angels and demons from beyond, which all seem to keep their spirits from earth and do not simply transform into new beings. They are a testament to the afterlife far more than anything I’ve ever read about people’s deja-vus or feelings of past lives being remembered in this one.
Personally, I find that most people who hope for karma and to simply transform instead of being accountable to God at the end of life, use it as an excuse to not live their best, with little or no obedience and service to God. What if they are wrong? Consider those consequences?
“For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.” Romans 6:23
All I know is that my faith feels right to my very core and so if I can live in a pleasing way for God, and he is going to be the one to judge me, I’ll be in heaven. If I’m wrong and that doesn’t happen, I’ve enjoyed, loved, had great joy, pleasure, grace and happiness during my life here serving God. Then if something is next and it’s not heaven, I will still enjoy the consequences!
November 9th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Even In other Religions Karma means something that is already been written and you excepting the Karma as it pass your life as a way of test in our journey in This life, Im like Mike I do not believe in reincarnation and I believe in an afterlife judged by God too..
In addition, you might find some who believe in it and who will associate it collectively.
Great article and please write a follow up to this.Thanks
November 12th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
@Mike - Thank you for taking the road less traveled. I have noticed people who visit most personal development blogs are awfully polite. There’s nothing wrong with that but there’s also nothing wrong with a mature discussion of alternate perspectives either.
A couple of things. First, if we’re judged by God after death we’re judged upon our actions while we were alive right? If karma means “action” then that would be how karma works from your perspective? Minus the reincarnation of course.
The way I see karma is we get what we’ve been giving out both in this life and if there is a next one, the next. So I don’t see it as something to be used as an excuse not to live my best. In fact the way I see it is hell can come to me right here on earth in this lifetime as a product of my actions.
I even suspect that if one lived a life believing in karma the way I do they would live a life that God in judgment would approve of. So much like yourself regardless of what it may be next I feel I will enjoy the consequences.
That all said if living a life pleasing to God is a life of enjoyment, love, pleasure, grace and happiness who could possibly decry such a life?
@Sam thanks for taking the time to add to the discussion. It’s thanks to people such as yourself and Mike that I will be able to balance out the perspective.
November 12th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Stephen, I’m glad to help continue the discussion, that is what blogging is all about right?
Anyway, I definitely agree with all your points as far as living life the right way for God, it is good in the sense of Karma and like you’ve pointed out the reincarnation is separate from that.
The one point I’d make on the whole idea of judgment is that God’s message about judgment is that there is one so called gatekeeper, that being Jesus Christ. Without Christ in your life, no matter how “good” you’ve lived or acted, you will not have the option of heaven. Even if people live an amazing life, one you’d consider to be high in karma, doing all great actions and living for God, still are not saved from hell at the time of death unless they know Christ. That is what destroys the idea of karma to me. Is it a good concept? Yes. Is it something to live for? No. God’s grace is so great that even if someone lives a terrible life and does evil throughout, still has the offer to repent and accept Christ before death as an eternal offering. That is NOT something Karma and reincarnation can compare to.
November 13th, 2008 at 10:19 am
Mike,
Discussion certainly is what blogging is about. At least it should be!
One thing I’m not clear on - what does it mean to you when you say you have Jesus Christ in your life? What does it mean when you say “accept Christ”? What does one do to be consider to have accepted Christ?
Stephen
November 13th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
You’ve asked a question that is not as simple to answer as many Christians unfortunately lead people to believe. I found a great article (this covers the subject well so definitely worth reading through) that describes this much deeper than the typical “church goer” would tell you. I started to reply but found this article covers it much better than I had.
http://www.neve-family.com/books/tozer/AcceptChrist-1.html
November 13th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
And if that is not enough. Part 2 of the article is here…
http://www.neve-family.com/books/tozer/AcceptChrist-2.html
November 15th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Hi Stephen,
Managed to feret out your website after your invite. So far, so good. Love the tips and articles. Been trying out interval training as well after hitting a ceiling with my high-impact arobics, pilates and running sessions. Anyway about karma and reincarnation:
Karma is not the blueprint of what will be but the volition of wanting to continue to exist, the result of that volition or will to continue to exist is why we reincarnate. Now what I think you are saying (and at one point I reached the same conclusion) is that maybe to reach enlightment, we just need to simply at time of death NOT want to take any form whatsoever, destroy this volition and thus we won’t be reincarnated.
But then the question remains: what about all those bad deeds/thoughts/actions during the present life? Do they all just get erased and forgotten just by not wanting to be re-born? I don’t think so… like any law, the law of Samsara is quite clear, you have to pay your debts unless you don’t have any.. this the 8-fold path to Nirvana. Will be glad to hear your views about this